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"The seeds of our wisdom, the answers about where we need to go in life are all contained in our experience."

Rattling Your Soul Cages Page Three--~ by Virginia Lee
An Interview with John Welwood

Reprinted with kind permission from Common Ground.

CG: Why is it so difficult for some people to make a commitment and easy for others? Is it a fear of intimacy?

JW: There's no one answer to a question like that, just like there's no one reason why people have affairs. People are very unique and everyone has their own dynamic. But often the fear of intimacy has to do with some unresolved connection with their parents, an emotional tie that hasn't been severed. In a way, they're already committed elsewhere. Or they're afraid of recreating the same dynamic they had with Mom or Dad, especially if a daughter was dominated by her father or a son by his mother. It could be that a man who was always a good boy to his parents doesn't want to have to play that role for his wife. In therapy, we have to honor the fact that someone honestly isn't ready to make a commitment and see if that dynamic can be worked with. If someone is willing to ask themselves why it is so difficult to make a commitment, then the old identity can be deconstructed.

CG: Why do people sabotage the love that they want so much?

JW: Again there are many different dynamics to this issue. In order to really let love in, it melts. It's like letting sunlight nourish the seed. The fear starts to dissolve those outer defenses. So, the one who wants to stay hidden in their shell is the one who's going to sabotage a relationship. It's too threatening to let down those defenses. CG:Is it possible for someone to love too much? What is your advice to someone caught in this dilemma?

JW: Loving too much is a way of saying that a person is grasping onto a relationship. It means that a person is more attached to holding onto a relationship than to taking care of themselves. It's another example of trying to get something out there that you don't have in here. That's the biggest delusion in relationship - seeing our partner (or potential partner) as the source of our happiness or of our suffering.

Rattling Your Soul Cages ~ by Virginia Lee
An Interview with John Welwood
Reprinted with kind permission from Common Ground.

CG :If intimacy is indeed a sacred and natural state, then why is it so elusive?

JW:I don't think intimacy is a natural state. It's sacred, but not necessarily natural. Intimacy as we know it is a very recent cultural phenomenon in human history. People assume that we have had intimacy for thousands of years, but we haven't. It used to be that you could be married and live with someone your whole life and never have a single personal conversation. You must understand what a new concept intimacy is and that's why it is so difficult for most of us. We have no teaching about it, no guidance, no models, no history. For thousands of years, people stayed together for external reasons. Marriage fulfilled a social and economic function. Its purpose and intention as always created by the family, and in a childlike way, couples did what they were told. Marriage was not about intimacy.

I define intimacy as a mutual recognition and sharing of who you really are with someone. That's a very new concept in what I call couple consciousness, and has only been possible since the Industrial Revolution when people could leave home and make their own living. People didn't even really begin dating until the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. Then we got a very adolescent, romantic model of relationship through Hollywood cinema, followed by the Ozzie-and-Harriet sitcoms of the 1950s.

This adolescent stage peaked in the 1960s, when people began to experience "free love" through the sexual revolution, characterized by rebellion, experimentation and idealism. Then the divorce rate soared, signaling the beginning of what I call the adult stage. If the child stage means doing your duty, and the adolescent stage is about expressing your feelings, then the adult stage is characterized by consciousness and responsibility. I must credit the women's movement of the 1960s with this transition of consciousness from the adolescent to the adult stage by asking the question: What is it to be a woman? And with that came a deluge of pop psychology books.

Before that, psychological language and concepts weren't even available. Our parents didn't have the benefit of those communication tools, which meant that they didn't know how to talk about what was going on in their relationships. How can there be intimacy if a couple can't even talk about what's going on between them? So, intimacy is not something that's handed down; it's not in our genes. It's not something we know how to do naturally. It's a human invention and that's why we are all having such a hard time. That's why we need to bring consciousness to it.


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